Friday, June 15, 2012

The McStay Family


February 4, 2010 was the last time Joseph McStay answered his cell phone, and no one has heard from him, his wife, Summer, or either of their two little boys since. When a family member went to their home in Bonsall, California, to check on them, he found no one home, with the exceptions of hungry pets. Someone asked me to do a reading about the McStay family, and here it is.

We start with the two of wands. This card speaks to opportunities and partnerships, usually within a business context. In this case, it would be a new idea, that had not yet gotton off the ground. It is crossed by the Moon. The Moon can sometimes mean dreams, or psychic ability, and it can also mean deception. Because of the nature of the question, and of the subject of the reading, I am going to go with the latter. So we have a great new business idea that will provide new opportunity with deception hanging in the air. As a base, we have the ace of pentacles, reversed. Upright, this is a great card to appear beside new business ventures, but reversed, it can indicate greed and corruption; and perhaps, finances falling through. In the McStay's disappearance, it may be telling us of both. Following this, the King of Cups appears, reversed. There are almost always lies associated with this king when he comes into a reading reversed, so we can assume that this is a corrupt and dishonest male in his early forties or older. As a possible connection to this situation, the Queen of Swords comes up, also reversed. She is a mean woman, also with a dishonest character. Not kindly disposed to the situation. It does not look as though there will be any changes or new information in the near future, as the six of swords comes up reversed in the place of things that will happen. Upside right, this is a card of travel, but reversed, it indicates that the McStays are somehow "stuck" wherever they are.

The six of wands appears in the place of fears, and as this is the card of heraldry and formal messages, along with victory, it gives an idea that someone connected to this is afraid of sending any messages home or to the general public. In the place of environment, we have the Knight of Wands, reversed. He is usually a jealous, rather violent, threatening male, between the ages of twenty-five and forty. He is somewhere in the general vicinity of the McStays, and knows where they are. Wands also point south, as they symbolize fire, which is south. So I would look for the McStays somewhere south of where they disappeared. The number of a knight is twelve, so it is possible that they are "twelve" to the south, or "six" over the border......lets not forget the reversed six of swords that came up earlier; perhaps they cannot move themselves "six" to the east, but they would like to! In the place of hopes and fears, we have the seven of wands, reversed, which is anxiety and indecision, so somehow, these two elements are playing a huge role. As a final outcome, the Chariot appears. This is a card of balence; it occasionally fortells travel, but in order for travel to take place, balence on some level must be achieved. There are two horses drawing a chariot on this card, and one is black, the other white. The message is that they both want to go different directions, and the charioteer must get them to work together and move the same direction.

Prior to doing this reading, I had thought the McStays might not be with us any longer, and while I may have been correct, this reading really looks like a very bad business deal with some shady twists and turns, rather than death. Hopefully, they will be found, and their family can know what has happened.

28 comments:

  1. Thankyou for doing this reading. Do you think they have voluntarily gone into hiding for fear of their lives? Do you think the whole family is still together? A strange case...

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    1. It kinda looks that way! Or they were threatened by someone and forced to travel somewhere that was not of their choosing and are being help hostage. I don't like the southerly direction indicated, though. Too much violence in certain parts of Mexico.

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  2. I have also been following this case since I saw the special on TV a year or so ago. I'm glad you did a reading! I hope that something happens in this case...it has been too long. :(

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  3. Hi Juli,
    Would you be able to look at the missing case of little Joshua Davis?
    Thankyou.

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    1. I've been planning on it. Just looking for a decent picture of him to put with the post.

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    2. Juli I saw a really good pic of Joshua in Mysa.com

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  4. Thanks so much for this reading. I remember seeing a video captured of them crossing the border I believe on TV. Maybe the did go into hiding, or go to meet someone, but why the whole family if it were a business meeting? I assume it was to go into hiding then. I love reading your interpretations of the cards! Judi

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    1. Was that on Nancy Grace? I think I saw that, too, but there were still a lot of questions and no real certainty. It seems that we should have located them by now if they were really on the video, yet the woman really DID look like Summer! For me, it brings more questions!

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    2. I'm wondering if copyright infringement or unauthorized use of a trademark may have played a role here!

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  5. If a new reading is done is it possible to change if their situation has? Sorry, this may be a stupid question, I don't know much about tarot readings.

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    1. It depends on the question you ask. If you ask the cards about the past, you will get a reading that deals with things that happened in the past, but if you ask about the present, you will get answers that deal with what is going on in the present. No; not a stupid question.......the cards that come up will be keyed into what you question is.

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  6. I honestly think she had alot to do with it it's weird how they are still missing...she changes her name..what about her past? Do she have.ex's yews can talk to about? was she crazy? Somethings got to give.

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    1. Wrong! I wish commenters would come back once things become known and correct themselves for all the foolish, malicious thinking.

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    2. I don't think I've ever seen anyone try to take back a comment made on the internet, anymore than a comment made in person would be taken back. It does not happen very often. As for the comment about Summer, it seems to me that her personality and possibly misunderstood past could be something that a perpetrator might try to use as a means of deflecting investigations away from himself and onto things that will come up empty. Also, I have seen others bully a misunderstood person and use differences in personality or culture as an excuse, or as a justification.

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    3. Juli, I think you have done it again. Completely nailed what happened.

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    4. Thankyou! But.......but........but.........the more I read about the case AFTER doing the reading, the more I thought it happened a different way! I really wanted to think the McStays were not harmed by someone they had every right to trust, but it seems that the cards are in agreement with the court, so far.

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  7. can you do the Laura Bible and Ashley Freeman? That case is about as strange as this one

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    1. Sure; lemme find some pictures of them.

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  8. Unfortunately the Mcstays have just been found Juli. Buried in the desert. Such a sad outcome. Hopefully law inforcement will be able to find out the details of their deaths.

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    1. "The remains were found Monday by a motorcyclist, off-roading through a remote area of San Bernardino County."

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    2. They were found North, not South.

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    3. Indeed they were. But where was their vehicle found, where were they actually murdered, and where can the murderer(s) be found?

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  9. Joe McStay's brother released a statement saying "you guys are cowards. You will be found and prosecuted" (he was addressing the killer) but to me his statement implies deeper knowledge of the crime. Also..I keep picking up the youngest boy crying because they weren't taking the dogs with them where they were going but the mother (summer) said something like "don't worry we're gonna come back..don't worry..they'll be fine". Joe is trying to be the voice of reason. Summer is focused on her children. Joe saying something like "it's all going to be fine man, just relax"..Juli can you confirm?

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    1. I agree that Joe McStay's brother has deeper suspicions of the identities of suspects than he has explained. I also found it curious, before this family was found, that he expected to have to look for them "forever". As for the last thoughts or statements on the parts of the McStays themselves, I almost never want to think of those things, but here is my take: they got a phone call, requesting that they suddenly meet someone at a location just a little to the south of their home, and were murdered that day. Then, to throw the investigation off, a phone call was made on Joseph's phone. I don't think they thought they would be gone long enough for the dogs to be neglected.

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    2. I think the business partner lured them to the bridge, as that's the only guy Joseph talked to in the minutes leading to the murders, and two hitmen were there instead and killed them very quickly. One drove the Trooper while the other drove their vehicle, each containing two bodies, to graves dug already in Victorville, which is near where this business partner lived. I think the other business partner (who's from the area the Trooper was found on the 8th) and brother are also involved, as they drained a TON of money out of one of Joseph's accounts, especially the business partner, and this could have paid for the hitmen and possibly a family who looked like the McStays walking into the border, as their clothes weren't at the graves. The brother had a LOT of strange body language (especially an accurate prediction of their graves) and a VERY intense astrology chart at the time of the murders, plus taking over the business with the younger business partner, who threatened Joseph before he got murdered (if he suspected him of doing it, why be business partners with him?). It definitely feels like a three-way plot focused solely on money and business. I wrote about my vision of what happened here: http://kevsreadings.blogspot.com Have many other cases on there that you haven't done yet and more will be up in the future.

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  10. Juli, would it possible to do a reading on Leigh Occhi? She was a 13 year old girl that went missing in my area(Tupelo,MS) back in 1992 when I was just a kid. I was very young but I remember it like it was yesterday. She's never been found and there have been some really strong accusations toward some of her family members, though I really hope it isn't true. Anyway, would just love to see what insight tarot could provide. Thanks :)

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  11. my heart really goes out for them, I felt they were dead, they were lured all of them I think they were kidnapped and killed and more.

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